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By Burrababa
#1105914
EU migrants claim more than £4 billion a year in benefits, according to a new report.

A paper produced by Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader and Work and Pensions Secretary, states that migrants in work claimed more than £2 billion, while those out of work received £1.1 billion in tax credits and benefit payments, in the last year for which figures are available.

The figures, based on calculations by the Migration Watch think tank, came as Mr Duncan Smith set out proposals for post-Brexit rules preventing EU migrants from entering Britain unless they have already secured a job, and imposing a five-year delay before they are allowed to claim income, family or housing benefits.

Good on you Mr Sensible Duncan Smith :wink:
#1105919
Burrababa, have you thought about changing your user name to Arfur, as in Arfur Fact. Or more appropriate minister for biased and wrong facts only selected to support rubbish comments.


Almost every report done by independent research bodies concludes that migrants pay more in than they take out.
The exception being the ukip mouthpiece and anti immigration body, migration watch.

Where they say they pay more in than they take out:

Research has found this for recent immigrants from other EU countries, but counting those who came before 2000 reduces this figure. This is a difficult thing to measure, and other research has different findings.

“EU migrants pay £1.34 in taxes for every £1 they receive in state assistance”


Or from a different research group.

European immigrants to the UK paid much more in taxes than they received in benefits over the past decade, making a net fiscal contribution of £20bn, say researchers.

The research by academics at University College London



Or from June 17, from fact check

Researchers generally agree that immigrants from the European Economic Area (EEA) and recent immigrants are, as groups, more likely to have a positive net fiscal impact / less likely to have a negative net fiscal impact
#1105922
Isn't the bit about not claiming benefits and having work already in the EU rules on travel for EU citizens? After all, freedom of movement is only valid for up to 3 months and after that the country can put limits on it such as registering, not being a drain on the country's welfare system, having private medical insurance etc.
Funny how all the other EU countries manage it but it just seems a bit too difficult for the UK to apply the rules already in place. (Just like claiming back money for health which the other countries manage).
Wonder how they'll manage after Brexit and they won't have the EU to blame anymore. Maybe the UK officials and politicians will actually have to get off their butts and do a bit of work for a change instead of saying a big boy did it and ran away.
#1105934
So all you guys accept the fact that the tax payer is subsidizing big business in the UK -the reasons for this are many --so stop trying to justify it or blame the Tories---this has always been the case and increased dramatically after Blair opened the doors to all and sundry.
#1105967
Mrs Nelson wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:21 am
You are very slow burabba, I have been suggesting that wages should cover rent and release the tax payer for as long as I have been a member here, successive governments have given handouts to the unemployed and elderly for ages and now even the workers rely on handouts, you could say we are all in it together, except if you are employing loads of people who buy their own uniforms, lease their own delivery vehicles and are paid by the tax payer.

This will improve your mood !! :D hot off the press

WAGES in the UK have risen after the number of jobs filled by workers from Eastern European countries fell for the first time in nearly a decade, new figures have revealed.
By HARVEY GAVIN
PUBLISHED: 11:47, Mon, Mar 12, 2018

Latest numbers from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show average weekly earnings, excluding bonuses, grew by 2.5 per cent in the final quarter of 2017.

The revelation comes despite dire warnings from some on the Remain side of the Brexit debate that wages would stagnate and the number of jobs would fall if the UK voted to leave the European Union.

The ONS figures show 330,000 more people were in work in 2017, a rise mostly driven by British citizens.


At this rate --I may be able to afford to buy you a drink this year !! :lol:
By Ketron
#1106008
O.K. Mrs N. I'll give you "One" that you're so desperate to hear.

She smashed the Union's , taking away their power ( given to them by Harold Wilson ...remember , Beer and Sandwiches at No 10 ? ).

But more impressively .... She "Gubbed" Arthur Scargill ! :D

God bless the Iron Lady !
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