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#1104728
It is very sad when intelligent people believe verbatim what they read in the MSM
That is true. Personally, I review multiple news sources from different countries. Not the Daily Mail & do not read the 'rags'. But it is sadder when I vast swathe of the population believe a guy when there is such a myriad of less than pleasant news about him - much of it written or said by himself.

I do believe though anyone giving Trump the slightest bit of credit is buying into this one mans delusion of reality - where he is Jesus and everyone's throwing stones at him. Such a saint :shock: Could it really be everyone else against him or could it be he has a warehouse full of skeletons and seeks to divide not unite, through continual insults and derision. By definition, that's a bully.

I also feel someone younger - who has a future, a young family - who needs to work and can see the world through a normal person's eyes?? May, be a better president and more reflective of what is needed in society, rather than a corrupt billionaire. He seemingly is more interested in tweeting and winding everyone up, than doing much of any use, other than the daily BRAG or BLAME on twitter.

So a bully a braggart AND a liar. A true reflection of the state of America - though to be fair, at the moment, we do not even know if he genuinely won the presidency? Let's see what the Russia enquiry throws up.
#1104936
Even the Main Stream Media have given up peddling this nonsense ! :roll:

Except they haven't

In today's MSM - It's ok to release an edited (by the Republicans) an unverified document detailing HOW THE FBI is against Trump. But the counter document which reviews the omissions and edited points after being stated as I will release - done his usual U-turn. Probably as once again, it flags up questions on him and his team of dodgy businessmen, sorry Whitehouse staff ;-)

There is a reason why so much negative news surrounds this man. He is a crook, though and through. I just can't believe anyone can raise an objection - as if you dig, he has a background of 'nastiness' & turning people over, existed long before he became president.

You simply can't keep crying 'Fake news', in front of proven fact. Trump made up that term, to convince his easily influenced followers that the world is against him. Maybe because he has more hidden from the public, then any previous president.
#1105027
if the Democratic revised memo is such a bombshell---all they have to do is give it to Mueller
I believe they have. That aside, how can you accuse one side of 'playing politics' when that is exactly what Trump has done with the memo in the first place?

Another little distraction tactic designed to undermine his countries own security forces, as his time surely must be limited, with investigations and unrest in the Whitehouse on all sides, including his own party.

I will admit i'm quite keen to see if Mueller is taking his time and making sure that when he does finally play his joker, Trump will have nowhere else to wriggle - be interesting one way or the other - as long as the dumb fork doesn't cause too many deaths in between.

Watch the Netflix series dirty money - Episode 5? Tump University - encourage poor people to take up finance to fun their 'Trump workshop' - where they spend $35,000 dollars in order to meet and have personal advice/time with Trump. Not only did that not happen, but they learnt nothing, other than trying to sell the service to their friends and family - Pyramid selling. Declared a scam. Contract said if they were to sue, he would have the option of a settlement!

Since the president has been in power there have been 130 lawsuits filed against him personally & lets not forget the 4000 prior to that. About the only record he holds.

He also forgot to mention he's been liasing with the Russians for quite sime time over trying to convince Putin to allow a Trump branded building in the Red Square. Amazing what you don't hear!!
By TVTechnology
#1105077
He has started to reverse this trend and by the end of his term; his detractors will have to eat humble pie--however people can get entrenched in their negativism so you will have to take what the MSM says with a huge pinch of salt.
Burrababa - I do not understand.

Why would you support someone, that is a con man. A man Americans believed was a good businessman because of the Apprentice - he was practically bankrupt when he was on the show - even the office they created was not the one in Trump towers, as that was looking a little shabby - that's from the producers of the program.

He creates an illusion of wealth & tells people what they want to hear. But it is not true.

I will repeat - one example of many. True court & witness testimony - Trump college was a fraud - using his name to con gullible TV watchers to pay up to 35,000 dollars for nothing - ruining already financially stretched people. BUSTED.

This one thing alone, should set alarm bells ringing. This is not a man of the people - he is dismantling health care, increasing costs, putting big pharmacy & the gun lobby before the people.

Breath of fresh air? I guess so - a stark contrast to the humanitarian that was Obama who tried to make many changes, with the Republicans doing their utmost to try to stop him making policy for the people.

This man is a criminal & disgraceful that he can make comments such as 'crooked Hillary' as however crooked she is, it's such misdirection - it's like a mass murderer accusing you of stepping on a fly ;-)

I expect the 'no fool like an old fool' brigade to be taken in - lets face it 1/3rd of Americans were that's 100 million (less Russian influence) people who voted in a guy who had shown he had little regard for 'small people' or women or gays or in fact anyone who was not part of Trumps inner/rich circle.

Lets review what he's actually done in a year. Change a tax policy, which benefits the rich massively more than the poor, cut corporate taxes (claiming it does not affect him, oh yes it does and all his associates), and the continual attempts to decimate the healthcare for 12-14 million Americans receive.

There have not been any creation of jobs under Trump, but a continued upward trend which started when Obama changed legislation to turn the recession around. Trump has claimed a victory, but it is not his work, he has not changed a thing - he is great in accepting thanks for things he has not altered, but quick to blame others, when he messus everything up.

So lots of talking - but America perceived poorly on the international stage and losing trade while China buddies up and strengthens ties. Tourism down. One of the lowest periods in recent American history, likely to get worse before it gets better.

I believe they do have quite a lot on Trump & ultimately if Karma plays fair, then it will catch up with him & he will get what is coming - which will hurt the egotist the hardest - make the Trump name worthless & remove it from everywhere.
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#1105079
TVTechnology wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:22 pm
Since the president has been in power there have been 130 lawsuits filed against him personally & lets not forget the 4000 prior to that. About the only record he holds.
Reminds me of what the Great English statesman once said

I can prove anything by statistics except the truth.
George Canning
By TVTechnology
#1105083
Answer the Trump college point. A simple one. He's a crook, no stats - just facts, one after another after another - fake news his supporters cry - but of course because everyone is lying about everything to do with Trump, every last deal.

There couldn't just be the slightest possibility that one of the 1000's of people with a grievance against him, may be telling the truth? Or just one news reporter or just one sexually abused woman he's 'handled her by the pussy'. It's not hard to believe when you see a 71-year-old tweeting like a 13-year-old girl gossiping with her mates. It would be laughable if people hadn't already died because of this halfwit - stirring up racial hatred.

Trump hasn't sued Neflix or any documentary makers with slander - as it is the facts. Also given his propensity to deliberately tie people up in court, should tell you something. He can't sue these people, as he is the liar. They can prove it, if he goes to court, he'll have to prove otherwise - but he can't.

He has manipulated the media himself to get where he is today & filled people with false hope and lies. If there is any justice, it will come to him - eventually.
By Burrababa
#1105092
TVTechnology wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:31 pm
Answer the Trump college point. A simple one. He's a crook, no stats - just facts, one after another after another - fake news his supporters cry - but of course because everyone is lying about everything to do with Trump, every last deal.

There couldn't just be the slightest possibility that one of the 1000's of people with a grievance against him, may be telling the truth? Or just one news reporter or just one sexually abused woman he's 'handled her by the pussy'. It's not hard to believe when you see a 71-year-old tweeting like a 13-year-old girl gossiping with her mates. It would be laughable if people hadn't already died because of this halfwit - stirring up racial hatred.

Trump hasn't sued Neflix or any documentary makers with slander - as it is the facts. Also given his propensity to deliberately tie people up in court, should tell you something. He can't sue these people, as he is the liar. They can prove it, if he goes to court, he'll have to prove otherwise - but he can't.

He has manipulated the media himself to get where he is today & filled people with false hope and lies. If there is any justice, it will come to him - eventually.
This is all old hat--even Hillary could tried to hammer him with the Trump University fraud but failed miserably

So because he has not sued anybody he is guilty??

This is all old hat that keeps manifesting in different formats

I suggest you do some research on the Clintons if you are looking for real crooks
By TVTechnology
#1105117
This is all old hat--even Hillary could tried to hammer him with the Trump University fraud but failed miserably
What part of he recently admitted liability for this scam and paid out millions in settlements did you not grasp?
I suggest you do some research on the Clintons if you are looking for real crooks
No politicians are honest, nor or am I a fan of the Clintons, but I do know they have done more charity & humanitarian work than Trump ever did. Not relevant, this post is about Trump.
So because he has not sued anybody he is guilty??
Yes, generally that is how it works. With an egotist - If someone slanders you publicly and it is an unprovable lie AND you are all about image - then you sue, that's how it works. If you don't sue, then that's because your lawyer advised you against it. :D You can sue for slander in the USA. but not if you are lying - as it will be found out and go public.


14/2

CNN/Everywhere - Trumps lawyer admits he paid $130,000 to a former porn star, who claims they had a fling - but silenced on an NDA. Trump's lawyer, says just because he paid her (ADMITTED), & created a new company to do so, attempting to hide the origination of the money - does not mean his client is guilty & he is just protecting his interests. :D

Wonder what he'll do tomorrow?
By Burrababa
#1105123
If you believe Fake news then you will have a warped view of the world

CNN--often referred to as the Clinton News Network

An inconvenient fact is that it was Bill Clinton who was impeached---I wonder why --LOL

CNN and MSM are dedicated to slinging mud at Trump in the hope that some of it sticks----don't be their mouthpiece. Remember they are doing it for a reason--namely personal gain--you are just a pawn--start evaluating everything you read with more caution.
By Burrababa
#1105135
Interesting facts--but like everything--we have to make up our own minds

https://www.investors.com/politics/clin ... n-scandal/


and

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... irty-work/

Who owns Investor's Business Daily?
Investor's Business Daily. Investor's Business Daily (IBD) is an American financial research and media company covering the stock market, international business, finance and economics. Founded in 1984 by William O'Neil as a print news publication, it is headquartered in Los Angeles, California. It is considered a trustworthy news source right of centre in American Politics
By old boy
#1105136
IBD are a very right of centre organisation, which has supported Trump in the past. Both the articles kinked are extremely biased against the Clintons, and are disingenuous too. They quote that many outside bodies, and foreign entities, donated to the Clinton Foundation, but they fail to mention the most important fact that the Foundation is a charity and it spends it's monies on charitable causes around the world.

And if you read enough of the IBD "reports", you should quickly realise that they are mostly regurgitating garbage harvested from Fox News, the "official" media outlet for Trump's alternative facts.
By Burrababa
#1105137
old boy wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 pm
IBD are a very right of centre organisation, which has supported Trump in the past. Both the articles kinked are extremely biased against the Clintons, and are disingenuous too. They quote that many outside bodies, and foreign entities, donated to the Clinton Foundation, but they fail to mention the most important fact that the Foundation is a charity and it spends it's monies on charitable causes around the world.

And if you read enough of the IBD "reports", you should quickly realise that they are mostly regurgitating garbage harvested from Fox News, the "official" media outlet for Trump's alternative facts.
I have already stated they are right of centre but to say they post garbage is just anoothe way of saying Fake news when in fact they are considered truthful ---but like any source they will always have a bias --it is up to us to pick up on the facts and cut through the bias whether it is Fox news or CNN
By TVTechnology
#1105166
Fake News is a Term coined by Trump - so whenever he lies (fact-checked by a few sources at 65% on the porky counter), he claims FAKE NEWS. So if he says it 100% it's true, despite any real fact or proof to the contrary.

Donald Trump - I had the largest amount of people for an inauguration ceremony ever.
Fact - much less than Obama & plenty of others, look at the pictures.
Trump - FAKE NEWS

Trump - I have made more legislative changes than any other president in the first year.
LIES - Loads passed more, Obama, Bush, list goes on.

He is a proven liar, and is caught doing so practically on a daily basis. I don't think anyone has ever been as bad as this - maybe Putin - but this is America? It is not a soap and people need to realise because you are on TV and well known does not make you a GOD.

Burraba, still focussed on the Clintons - like all the brainwashed disciples of the king of the snake oil salesmen - DISTRACTION BLAME OTHERS CLINTON, FBI, Department of Justice, half the oval office you have already sacked. Forget anyone else - Trump.

I'll say this to you a 3rd time, he has paid out millions for members of Trump college as it was a scam, where he used his name + empty promises and delivered nothing - other than to cause poor people to borrow money for his course. A con scam where he used his famous name to skin people well and truly & he's the president - hang on? I've heard interviews from a few of these people on a documentary and it's unbelievable he is not in jail, in fact is summarises the justice system - one rule for the rich. If you have committed a crime you should not be allowed to buy peoples silence because you can afford to - it still makes you a crook, but one who can get away with it, if you can afford to pay people off.

So on the subject of telling the truth, could someone explain to me, while your wife has just dropped your child, shortly after you would get your lawyer to pay a porn star 130,000 dollars. He's so charitable - most would give to cancer, good old Donald, donated to old porn stars and made her sign an agreement to say nothing. HIS LAWYER SAID THIS.

Looks like this could explode as the admittance by Trump's lawyer that he did make a payment to a porn star, now leaves the whole point of a non-disclosure agreement invalid. So according to her manager & legal, she is free to go to the press.

Whilst I dislike soap operas, in general, this apprentice/bad guy really does make compelling viewing as a study of how a large percentage of the population seemed to be obsessed in such a corporate crook, whose only real skill seems to be conning people into believing he has anyone's interest other than his own self-serving ego and his rich business mates.

Perhaps in some ways, Trump could wake up the nation, but not as he planned it. Sometimes you have to really be shown rock bottom, in order to affect a change.

So whilst another 17 people, mainly kids were killed yesterday in Florida at school - Which is in addition to the two other shootings in schools in the last few weeks (not even shown in the mainstream now, guess death number too low!). Trump's answer buddy up to the gun lobby, keep giving guns to people with mental health issues and allow cross county gun movement, no restrictions in automatic weapons or round capacity - in fact nothing at all if it affects the bottom line of the gun companies.

I wonder how he would feel to receive a phone call to say his kid had been killed at school. Can you imagine! So he wants to give the teachers guns and train them how to handle a firefight. For real. More guns, as that's proven to work well, isn't it?

Trump is about Trump and not about the people who believed by electing him he would help the poorest - those are the ones who voted in the greatest numbers & perhaps also the most vunerable/gullible. I've listened to his rally speeches & they are targeted soundbites-all of which amount to nothing factually.

Something has gone wrong when the 'land of the free' has this man as a leader.

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