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#1091297
Well let me give you a categorical answer to that question.
I despise the utter barbarity beheading and the very idea of it fills me with disgust and cannot be condoned by any right thinking person.
Does that answer your "question"? Your next deflective attempt is welcome.

Having sympathy for a group does not make you a member of that group - really?
It goes a long way towards your entry application, and the very word sympathy indicates that the actions of " that group" are, in your eyes, perfectly acceptable - again another attempt at deflection.

The minutes silence was for those of the IRA that died - end of.
You try to justify his deplorable actions by slightly trying to divert from, or reinvent the true reason why he was there.

A reptilian piece of terrorist loving scum who, thank God, will get crushed on June the 8th and then end his days tending his allotment, teaching Diane how to do her sums and reading Das Kapital again, and damn good riddance to him.

Ah the good old Renault 5 - yet another attempt at deflection, trying to move away from the matter in hand.
#1091302
I learned from the best master kinchy.

Don't waste any more ink on me

We have wasted enough time on this, the miners, thatcher etc in the years before you came here, I'm not mystic meg, but I can assure you neither of us is ever going to give an inch.
#1091303
Mrs Nelson, Corbyn was arrested for obstruction outside the Old Bailey during the trial of the Brighton bomber who was found guilty of murdering 5 people and seriously injuring 31 others.

Corby stated at the time that he went to demo outside at the trial to, in his words, "show solidarity" with the group of people being tried by the state in a sham trial.

That says it all, really. But if you bother going through all his speeches in the last ten or so years, they are littered with anti-establishment stuff, such as 'Nato is dangerous, and should banished', and so on. I am sorry, but he is just not a suitable person to be a Prime Minister, any more than Trump should be allowed to remain in the White House.

Personal view, Trump will be out on his arse within twelve months. Hope Pence will be better.
#1091313
I'm not familiar with why Jc thought the case was a Sham, so I can't comment on that aspect at this time.

I have seen his anti establishment comments but that doesn't mean he is any less capable of running the country than mrs may, a woman who hasn't managed so well in her previous job, a woman representative of a group who constantly miss targets and perform u turns every few months. No Election election, no increase in NI, an increase sorry no increase etc.



I think it's fair to say that the tories got hammered again on question time tonigh, that spotty Tory snot in the audience had a face you would never tire of slapping. How they can suggest TM is the only leader capable of facing the 27 is laughable considering she is afraid of going head to head with JC

:lol:
#1091328
In that case why did Corbyn decline the invitation to the ITV Leaders debate. Surely he could have used the opportunity to utter his crap?

Before I came here - does that mean because you have discussed matters before, it precludes me from commenting - or is that in line with the totalitarian Communist Labour government you wish for. Better polish that star you wish upon
#1091336
Kinchy

Every time Jc is on the Telly he suggests TM should stop running away and face him, are you talking about a debate with the greens and the other no seats parties? Why wasn't Mrs may there, she's scared of paul nutter maybe or krankie ?

You are a clever guy I think, but you seem to be turning nasty, look at your last comment here to me. maybe that's the company you are in here ?
We have done the politics to death on here, but you can discuss it as much as you like, however on a forum with 7 regular users you might soon find you are preaching to the Renault 5.

Cheers

Kev
#1091385
As Chas Reagan said, the voting public are regarded as idiots, maninly for the resasons you have outlined above.

Tory support, despite the unassainable argument, they can't hit a single target

Our unassainable by default leader, who can't be attacked or questioned because she is in hiding

On going support for Brexit despite the public not having a say on the deal

It is very depressing I agree with you,
#1091389
Mrs Nelson, you keep repeating the same things over and over as though by doing so they will become true.

Firstly, Mrs May is not in hiding. Virtually everyday she has been out in the community in different parts of the country, knocking on doors and pressing the flesh. She has also been maintaining her Prime Ministerial duties which she will continue to do until the results of the election are known. Just because she hasn't knocked on your door in El Galan doesn't mean that she is in hiding.

There is no point in "debating" with Corbyn on the TV; they are such polar opposites that it would be a complete waste of time. However, they will both be on TV in front of a live audience, one after the other, on the BBC.

A year ago you were demanding that a general election should be called so that the UK could choose a Prime Minister. Now that an election has been called you are moaning that Mrs May is "Our unassainable by default leader" (I think that you meant unassailable). If the Conservatives are returned as the governing body in June, then she will not be by default.

I have repeatedly said that everyone has their own opinions on what they think Brexit means or should mean. What is fact is that the voting public called on the British government to leave the membership of the EU. Do you honestly think that any government can ask the public about every aspect of the negotiations? The process would take decades/hundreds of years.

If in 5 years time, the voters don't like the deal that is negotiated by 2019, then they can elect a party that proposes that the UK re-joins the EU. That is how democracy works in the UK; new governments can hold votes in Parliament to repeal previous governments' laws. In the meantime, the next government, assuming that it is a Tory one, will try to get the best deal for the UK that they can get. Rather that than Corbyn, who has voted against the EU ever since he became an MP ( he has always wanted to come out), who would come back from negotiations with Brussels claiming that he couldn't get a good deal, or give in to every one of their demands, so that the UK was staying in.

You say that he is a man of principle, but this is just one of his principles that he is prepared to throw overboard just so that he can pretend to oppose the Conservatives.
#1091393
She is unassainable because she refuses to debate with one man, (not through the strength of her arguments, that's a default position to me) the opposition leader that her private media industry have ridiculed from day one. An aurgument that she is available to debate with people cherry picked for the cameras is not what I expect from you, although I agree politicians can be put on the spot. She argues she can negotiate with 27 but is scared of corbyn, NO POINT .? im sorry old boy, but I'm completely polarized to the common view on here but I'm willing to carry on and have a go, our brave leader should seek inspiration from me maybe?

I'm not moaning about anything, although I'm getting tired of the Tory apologists on here, and given the amount of data that is available to people these days, the blind loyalty and reinforcement of myth is getting very depressing,

Regarding your last paragraph, if the tories win on June 8 and knock out a deal and set it in motion within the next five years, well surely you recognize that it's unlikely a change of government are going to start a process to undo
It.

It's a once in a generation thing people constantly say, that's why a vote for the tories is nothing short of throwing your opinion down the toilet.
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#1091394
This forum is very much like the state of politics in the UK today. The UK haven't got an effective opposition party to speak of, and will not have one for many, many years.

The opposition party are very nasty people who wouldn't know a fact or how to tell the truth if they slapped them in the face....

As I said....very much like the state of this forum. :D
#1091459
I think the prime ministers reluctance to debate Jeremy Corbyn can only be seen as a sign of weakness. The Tory attack on the old and their poor handling of brexit and immigration, their terrible record on borrowing and the many uturns will not deliver the dramatic crushing of labour that the blues on here are hoping for. A week is a long time in politics, anything can happen.
#1091596
she refuses to debate with one man, (not through the strength of her arguments, that's a default position to me)

Perhaps she does not want to sit in the same studio with a supporter of the murderous IRA?
Perhaps she has friends and former colleagues who were maimed or killed by the murderous IRA?
Perhaps she has the courage to believe that one should never sit and sup with the devil?
Perhaps she has the moral fortitude to decide that to debate with the supporter of murderous gangs of shite aint worth the waste of breath?

You can say she is in hiding then that is your choice of terminology, frankly I would not want to even give Corbyn credence by sharing a platform with the piece of crap that he has shown himself and McDonnell and Racist Abbott to be.

No matter what the election outcome will be ( which is somewhat pre ordained) then these three pieces of terrorist supporting shite called the UN Holy Trinity should be destroyed via the ballot box , not the bombs and bullets they have advocated over the years, yet now try to assume an air of political respectability.
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