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By Kinchy
#1108056
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Refuse to see what? That you think I should apologise? So if that is your opinion then that is all it is your opinion nothing more.


Erm no, you said that, it seems that you are an expert at putting words in other people’s mouths to make your point.

So now who is throwing out the insults? I asked a question, not putting words in other peoples mouths as you somewhat rudely state.

How can you be so certain it won’t ? That’s why they need the option to give Brexit ten years then keep it or bin it or bin it even sooner, like when the final deal is revealed.

No one will know what Brexit will bring, but those that voted leave believe that the UK will be better as a sovereign nation after Brexit. Bin it even sooner - ah the peoples vote advocated by the likes of Blair, Clegg Mandelson et al. The vote to leave was just that to leave and if you read the Taxpayer paid for pamphlet from call me Dave it said that the UK government will implement that decision. No second referendum and it will take more than ten years for another referendum on rejoining the cabal so quite frankly you are deluded to think that there will be another vote.

Relative to a country that’s experiencing hard times, the uk is paradise.

Relative to a country that is experiencing hard times? What hard times are there in Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania Hungary and Slovak Republic for example? Are there civil wars in any of those nations? Are there repressive regimes in any of those countries? So please explain experiencing "hard times"?

I agree immigration puts pressure on housing and infrastructure, but so does the decimation of social housing and under investment in the nhs etc, our aging population, our kids won’t look after us, it’s down to them nasty immigrants isn’t it ?

So now who is putting words into others mouths? Did I say nasty immigrants? Please tell me where I have posted that word relating to immigrants.
Your kids might not look after you, but such a broad brush generalisation sounds silly.
So you accept that immigration has put pressure on infrastructure and housing, so thank you for agreeing that matter .Investment in the NHS has been never so high, and that is to enable the NHS to keep pace with a population growth immensely caused by the unchecked flow of immigrants from the EU, and that would only increase even more rapidly when Juncker has his way to bring six, yes six more Eastern States into the Brussels federalist club. Guess who would be asked to pay more for that - the UK would see its payments increase to £22 billion without rebate by 2025 - that will be good for the kids you are so concerned about. Perhaps those in work will not mind paying more in Income Tax and National Insurance when those coming from the EU pay or have paid next to bugger all, yet use the NHS at a cost far beyond their contributions.
By Mr Jones
#1108058
You should google insult and google suggestion, they are different things kinchy, The immigrants that you seem to despise, they will look after you in a minimum wage type of way, your kids are only interested in your last will and testament and stripping your wallpaper. :D

I find your way of communicating hard to follow, that’s all I can say right now.
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By Jimbo1916
#1108060
pete evans wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 8:35 am
what other gripes are more important. Money is what matters, certainly to me. Now please dont get personal. Please stop asking me for details. if you want something I will issue an Invoice as normal.
So out of all the vast complexities concerning Brexit, your main concern is that the exchange rate is a bit low at the moment, conveniently forgetting that it was much lower not so long ago when Brexit was nowhere on the horizon.

For what it`s worth .. I don`t care if the UK stays in out. But I do respect a persons right to vote without being called a sucker or a traitor or a turkey voting for Christmas.

I rest my case.
By Kinchy
#1108064

I find your way of communicating hard to follow, that’s all I can say right now.


Well I must say that I find that easy to understand. :D
Where have I said that I despise immigrants? Please back that up with evidence.
In a minimum wage type of way? What do you mean "in a type of way"? Again please elaborate.
My children have no interest in my estate, and as for stripping wall paper, we do not have wallpaper :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It has not taken you long to revert with insults has it?
By Kinchy
#1108065
what other gripes are more important. Money is what matters, certainly to me. Now please dont get personal. Please stop asking me for details. if you want something I will issue an Invoice as normal.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well I trust your Invoice will state your CIF number, NIE number and will also indicate that you are a registered autonomo/SL/SA and paying Social Security and payments to the Hacienda.
I like your jokes Mr Evans
By Mr Jones
#1108069
I haven’t insulted you, don’t be so touchy, and don’t take everything so personal, when i say you, I’m talking about a huge group of people, it’s what we call in English a generalisation. I’m sure your kids don’t care about you selling their inheritance in order to pay for your care, although I bet a few would. Artex beats paper all the time.
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By Jimbo1916
#1108071
pete evans wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 7:14 pm
Because it dropped immediately and drastically doesnt that tell you something?
UK exchange rates change at the drop of a hat, so no it doesn't tell me anything. :D

Somebody farts in the USA and the pound drops a euro. :D

Life goes on Pete. :wink:
By soapydave
#1108073
Why do people who moan about the exchange ,us minions cant do anything about it, :(
only be on yours toes when its good change your funds then , :)
its quite simple really, :roll:
its always nice to get a good rate, but it isn't end of the world if you don't,
I know some folks moved here when the rate was good 1.40,s ,good for you ,
but times change unfortunately,but its still cheaper to live in spain than uk,its just that your pension does,nt go as far as before,so instead of 3 G&Ts it could be 2.............its not the end of the world,instead of steak it could be chicken always live within your means.
By Kinchy
#1108077
Excellent and very interesting links.
Mr Jones, I am grateful for your concern about me entering my dotage, but as you have no idea as to my financial matters, I can assure you that should either my wife or I need social care, the money for that is already allocated :shock:
We might have done some dabbling in shares? and you might not know how many properties we might have :roll: With a former bank manager wife who knows eh?
PS - Don' like Artex either
By Mr Jones
#1108079
Kinchy

Stop making this thread all about you, we don’t want your life story thanks. We were discussing useful roles for immigrants and the need for special care in our old age . Some kids will gladly take their parents in and look after them some won’t, some will reluctantly sell their houses and go in to care, there is a good chance that some of the people delivering this care will be immigrants, God bless them. In the event immigration falls and our own people are forced in to these roles, do you think the quality of care will increase, I don’t.
Last edited by Mr Jones on Tue May 15, 2018 10:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
By Mr Jones
#1108080
Jimbo1916 wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 6:31 pm
pete evans wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 8:35 am
what other gripes are more important. Money is what matters, certainly to me. Now please dont get personal. Please stop asking me for details. if you want something I will issue an Invoice as normal.


For what it`s worth .. I don`t care if the UK stays in out. But I do respect a persons right to vote without being called a sucker or a traitor or a turkey voting for Christmas.

I rest my case.

Why complain about these comments, pete never made them did he?

A sucker is someone who is easily fooled, so if someone said to you

“Jimbo ketron kinchy you are easily fooled I will see you all later”

would you be less or more offended if this person said

“See you later suckers “

What’s the problem ?
By Kinchy
#1108081
Mr Jones
You seem intent on bringing the old arguments and quotes of your since departed friend back to the discussions.
I will from now on ignore any silly comments from you. The core of this thread is about the countdown to Brexit and the wider implications Brexit may have.
So, in your opinion, should the UK stay in the CU as well as the SM, and what would be your reasons for remaining in those two?
Should the UK tighten all immigration controls after the end of the transition period? If yes why and if not again why?
What is your opinion on the current impasse regarding the border between RoI and Northern Ireland? Do you think a hard border will affect the GFA of 1998?
Do you think that the UK if no Brexit should be forced to adopt the Euro, as are the stated aims of Jean Claude Juncker?
Do you agree that ,again,Juncker wishes that the UK adopts fully the Schengen Accord, with all the possible security implications?
Do you think the UK will benefit from six more Eastern nations citizens being allowed unfettered access to the UK with all the inherent benefits they would be entitled to?How much more will the UK have to pay into Brussels if this happens?
By Mr Jones
#1108082
Kinchy wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:00 am
Mr Jones
You seem intent on bringing the old arguments and quotes of your since departed friend back to the discussions.
You are wrong again kinchy, I’m mr Jones, It’s Jimbo who is having a go at pete and bringing suckers etc back in to play. Talk to him, not me.
Jimbo1916 wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 6:31 pm
pete evans wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 8:35 am
what other gripes are more important. Money is what matters, certainly to me. Now please dont get personal. Please stop asking me for details. if you want something I will issue an Invoice as normal.


For what it`s worth .. I don`t care if the UK stays in out. But I do respect a persons right to vote without being called a sucker or a traitor or a turkey voting for Christmas.

I rest my case.
And I rest mine.
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