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Mrs Nelson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:55 amHe will probably retire, have a week off and land a nice consultancy board or similar golden egg type job.
You would think the rules that apply to him would also apply to teachers nurses and doctors, surely we need the best people in that line of work too ?
old boy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:09 pmWhat needs to be appreciated is that the UK has virtually cut unemployment to zero. Yes, there are around 1.5 million who are registered as not having a job, but most of them are unemployable for oh, so many reasons. One of which is that they consider the job beneath their dignity, so would rather sit on their plastic sofa and watch constant re-runs of the Jeremy Kyle show.
Why is that there are still thousands of people coming into the UK every month, yet the unemployment figure has been consistently dropping for years. The answer is that the UK enjoys full employment.
Sorry old boy, I’m not disputing the figures. I’m just suggesting that if it wasn’t for the tax payer underpinning low pay via benefits, and the cruel changes to the benefit system, the take up of these awful jobs wouldn’t be so large, obviously able bodied people shouldn’t live on the dole but at the same time low pay shouldn’t be a form of punishment for one group and a reward for the other. I’d like to see the drastic re-evaluation that has been applied to handouts applied to employment. So I’d start with the definition of being employed, this would stipulate that being employed relieves the tax payer off the liability to pay ones rent and passes this responsibility to the employer.old boy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:12 amMrs Nelson, you cannot just pick what statistics you like, and believe them to be true whilst calling anything that you don't like to be lies. You have indicated in the past that you believe the immigration figures, but now you want to discredit the statistics about unemployment that comes from the same source.
As a rule of thumb, employers like the years of high unemployment because they can pick and chose who the want to employ, and they have, in the past, subjected their employees to rather poor working conditions. As much as you dislike zero hours contracts, there are vast swathes of staff that actually chose to have them. Take McDonalds, for example, because it was becoming difficult to recruit staff due to a lack of suitable candidates, they decided to give all their staff the opportunity to either take full time contracts or zero hours contracts. More than 50% of the staff took the decision to re-sign on zero hours contracts.
Unfortunately, the welfare benefits system has been abused for far too long in the UK. I don't necessarily agree with all the changes that have been made lately, but something desperately needed to be done to make it preferable to be working rather than sitting at home watching the box 24 hours a day.
One further point. Blame should also be laid at the feet of the person who conceived the idea of Working Tax Credits. That did more to help squeeze down wages than anything that I can remember. It was introduced in 2003.
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