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By Sheff_Blade
#1111185
old boy wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:36 pm
And by the same token, I assume we should also credit the threat of Brexit for the fact that the NHS had circa 108,000 unfilled clinical positions plus about 35,000 clerical, administrative and other non-clinical posts requiring filling.

And there there is real evidence that the impending threat of Brexit plus the hardening of immigration rules has had a huge detrimental effect.
Your figures are rather meaningless as an organisation the size of the NHS will always have unfilled vacancies. The natural turnover will mean there are always unfilled vacancies as they are being advertised, and in the middle the selection process.

I agree there may be problems attracting permanent EU workers in the future but I don't understand why, for example, a Spanish nurse would be reluctant take a well paid temporary job in the UK for a short period prior to BREXIT? I find it even harder to understand why you're implying they can't fill clerical jobs.
From the NHS statistics website wrote: In March 2018 there were 28,998 advertised vacancy full-time equivalents in England published, this compares to 30,613 in 2017, 26,424 in 2016 and 26,406 in 2015.
Hardly a HUGE detrimental effect.
By soapydave
#1111186
Sheff_Blade wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:16 am
TVTechnology wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:09 am
Wages up!!!

I don't think so.

Most I know who work in the UK complaining of a wage freeze - bullshit figures.
Once again: "I know a bloke down the pub"! Don't you understand the concept of mean or median? Some people are above the figure; some below. It's amazing how the official figures are acceptable if they confirm your beliefs; if they don't then they're obviously wrong and the bloke down the pub is the font of all knowledge.
Bloke down the pub?...………..
the house of commons has a sudsidized pub/bar for M.Ps is it one of them clowns passing information on? :) :)
By TVTechnology
#1111201
Once again: "I know a bloke down the pub"! Don't you understand the concept of mean or median? Some people are above the figure; some below. It's amazing how the official figures are acceptable if they confirm your beliefs; if they don't then they're obviously wrong and the bloke down the pub is the font of all knowledge.
I don't do pub or gossip & I have my financial services qualifications, so finance, money and banking I do have a decent understanding of. Perhaps I do see things a little differently to some others.

I do listen to people that I know of a working age for starters. Simply put I don't know of any of my friends who have had any pay rises in ages & am also aware of some of the 'pay freeze' attitudes of companies, whose employees are so desperate for work, they are unlikely to say much, or push the point home.

Clearly, some sectors must have pay rises - but the average job? I don't see any evidence of this, with friends bleating at me they've not had a pay rise in years. My own partner paid from a UK company didn't see a pay rise or bonus in 4 years. 15-20 years ago, many of these same people were receiving bonuses and pay rises, so overall income wise for many anyone claiming the brexit has done any good, I am not sure much of what we here it is not trying to spin positive out of a pathetic state of affairs the country has somehow fallen into. One of the worst thought out strategies in living memory. Putting something so complex out for a vote, that no one could know the outcome - in my mind that's just plain stupid. A deal with no details? Not sure how it happened.

They reckon if you look at the EU as a whole if the UK took a walk it would affect them individually 2.5% but the UK as deals with so many others, costs said to increase a further 12.5% - will this bear out true? Who knows - but the UK has an over-inflated opinion of itself on the world stage, which now we are beginning to see, as much of the EU is preparing to shrug their shoulders at this joke of a deal, which has made the UK look like a bunch of disorganised fools
By Lincoln45
#1111202
"which has made the UK look like a bunch of disorganised fools"

The biggest fools were David Cameron and the bunch of twats who lord it up over the rest of us in Parliament.

Cameron put it to a vote in Parliament because of infighting in his own party. He then rushed out a stupid little leaflet, at the cost of 9 million just in time to beat voting laws, which really told nobody anything. When it all went wotsits up, he did a runner, because there was no plan B.

As for all these official figures about how the economy is doing and what the unemployment rate is, take it with a pinch of salt! I don't know anybody personally who has had a pay rise since the austerity measures were introduced by Cameron's side kick Osbourne.
By Burrababa
#1111207
These arguments belong in the past

All this about not knowing what would happen if people voted for Brexit is just clutching at straws----it is no different from not knowing what would happen if we voted to Remain--for instance--would Turkey join ? would UK have to join the Euro? Would there be an EU army ? would UK have to accept Schengen ? etc etc

The people have voted and everybody should stop whinging and get on and support the best Brexit possible--Labour is doing the UK people a great disservice by their continued criticism of the Government without contributing to any of the negotiations that would make UK citizens better off. So much for socialism :wink:
By TVTechnology
#1111268
Sky News did a poll of - 'Have people changed their opinions after the recent worries of the Brexit'?

They interviewed Burnley football supporters on their way to a match. In the main, they would still vote Brexit, with one man answering 'I don't know if will be better or worse', 'but we can't keep changing our minds'. Good to see people's futures are based on such insightful and forward thinkers :wink:

Great poll, in the main a lot of pensionable football types from one part of the UK :D Still luckily for me, i'm thankfully a resident of Spain & long may that remain.
By joncastle
#1111273
Sadiq Khan has made such a mess of running London the last two years, I never knew he was going to do some of what he has done. ¿. Can we have another election so the people can change their mind?
By Jimbo1916
#1111276
What kind of idiot goes on a ex-pat forum at 02:50 in the morning and is still at it at 06:55 elsewhere on another one.

How sad a life is that. :lol:
By old boy
#1111280
Jimbo1916 wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:12 am
What kind of idiot goes on a ex-pat forum at 02:50 in the morning and is still at it at 06:55 elsewhere on another one.

How sad a life is that. :lol:


Possibly someone who is suffering from a serious illness.
By Ketron
#1111281
A serious illness , that doesn't stop him from being one of the nastiest individuals I've ever witnessed in any forum.
Most people that I've known with a serious illness remain upbeat and want to make their remaining time , pleasant for themselves and others.
By Ketron
#1111285
The stark reality Old boy .
I've always been compassionate, as none of us knows what lies ahead for us .
And I can assure you , when and if I am in the same situation, I will make my remaining time left, as pleasant as possible for all .
That's how I'd like to be remembered.

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