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By PeteKnight
#1101458
If you’re looking for something to do serious work on, including databases, then a tablet isn’t for you. Unless you go for a Microsoft Surface Pro - which are very nice but not very affordable.

I’m not keen on the all-in-on devices. I like to have a bit of flexibility to swap and change components around, which the all-in-ones don’t give you. It’s a bit like buying a TV with a built-in VCR or DVD player - they never really appealed to me. I certainly wouldn't go for something like the HP Slate 21. It’s the worst of both worlds.

I think that if I wanted something smaller than a regular tower, I’d go for a decent laptop and use an external mouse and keyboard (and maybe an external monitor as well). You get portability if and when you want it and if you do as Bee says and go for an i5 plus 8gb of RAM you’ll have a nice fast machine. I’d also go for an SSD rather than a regular hard drive as it improves startup times enormously.

Don’t forget a removeable hard drive or two to do backups of important data/photos and keep one of the external hard drives disconnected when you’re not doing a backup to it, so that it can’t be infected by viruses or ransomeware.

Pete.
By Jimbo1916
#1101459
If you buy a decent laptop, or any laptop for that matter, why on earth would you need to buy a seperate monitor and keyboard. :roll:

I don't think the OP's into swapping and changing components or taking it shopping with her....She just wants something to replace her old tower which doesn't consist of a tower, monitor and keyboard. I thought this was obvious.

So an ORDINARY laptop, which normally INCLUDES a screen and keyboard will do just fine I think. :roll:

I have a Core i7 and 16GB of ram in my Lenovo Y50 and it flies. It also has a built in screen and keyboard...which is well handy. :roll:

I've also just upgraded the hard drive to a Crucial M300 1GB SSD.
By freddo
#1101461
bktayken wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:52 pm
pete evans wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:56 pm
Can a tablet do proper computer work? spreadsheets or databases? Essential for business.
Yes mine/the wifes has Excel and Word........everything a laptop has and you can increase memory with an SD card.... load stuff to One Drive and more to much to list
An SD card will increase storage nothing to do with Memory
By Info
#1101464
Be very careful of the portable hard disks as I have a new one Toshiba that has just died. I think someone must have knocked it off my desk as I found it on the floor. As my pc was dying I bought the disk to download all my "stuff". The pc died and now the portable disk has died and left me with nada. Bee
By TVTechnology
#1101466
Maybe it's me - we go through lots of computers...

My general feeling about laptops is they wear out a lot quicker than desktops.

I've always found issues relating to overheating a lot more common, as there is simply less airspace in them, so a little dust gets in + heat and they tend to have shorter shelf lives than they do in the UK.

We are using a work enviroment, so perhaps do get pushed a little harder than home use - but i've seen this pattern for years - as and when equipment changed / replaced. Always laptops seem to fall over first.

When I need to travel, I take a laptop. Other wise, find desktops a little more stable longer term...

Dell for a PC good solid brand, if uninspiring.

Be very careful of the portable hard disks as I have a new one Toshiba that has just died. I think someone must have knocked it off my desk as I found it on the floor. As my pc was dying I bought the disk to download all my "stuff". The pc died and now the portable disk has died and left me with nada. Bee
Sorry to hear that - these things do not bounce too well off the tiles. Why not sign up for a dropbox account (free one) and you can dump your documents and photos in there too in the future. All our info is backed up on cloud too, so if everything including back up drives burn to the ground, I can still fire up PC /MAC/IPAD/Android phone - in fact pretty much any connected compatible device and download / access everything...In fact for work, we work on the cloud, which then backs up to the PC, which then backs up to a further hard drive.....3 deep....
By PeteKnight
#1101469
Jimbo1916 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:17 pm
If you buy a decent laptop, or any laptop for that matter, why on earth would you need to buy a seperate monitor and keyboard. :roll:
If you re-read my post you’ll see that I talked about an external keyboard and mouse and MAYBE an external monitor.
Anyone who is used to using a full sized keyboard and a ‘proper’ mouse may be unhappy at the prospect of using a laptop keyboard and trackpad/nipple if they want to do some serious work. I use a laptop quite a bit, but I still prefer a full sized keyboard and a mouse. If the laptop was my only machine then I’d certainly be using a decent keyboard with full sized keys and full key travel, plus a nice optical mouse.
There’s also the issue of ergonomics. I prefer my screen to be at eye level when I’m seated, but the mouse and keyboard need to be on the desktop - at a much lower height. You can’t do that unless you raise your laptop up, and use an external keyboard/mouse.

Depending on the size of the laptop screen, and the type of work you’re doing, an external monitor MAY be a useful addition. In some situations it might be worth using both the laptop screen and the external monitor, but it depends on whether you prefer a dual screen setup.

Pete.
By Jimbo1916
#1101472
I don´t know many people who use a monitor and an extra keyboard with their laptop. That`s the whole idea of one. A 15 or 17 inch screen is more than adequate for most people, and I have advised her as such.

I have a high spec tower and two laptops and I certainly can`t see the point of having extra monitors and keyboards if I`m sitting in the front garden with either of them.

The only addition that I may make sometimes is that although both laptops have excellent on board speakers, I do plug in an external sub woofer and Bose speakers.
By freddo
#1101474
Info wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:28 pm
Be very careful of the portable hard disks as I have a new one Toshiba that has just died. I think someone must have knocked it off my desk as I found it on the floor. As my pc was dying I bought the disk to download all my "stuff". The pc died and now the portable disk has died and left me with nada. Bee
By freddo
#1101475
freddo wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:23 am
Info wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:28 pm
Be very careful of the portable hard disks as I have a new one Toshiba that has just died. I think someone must have knocked it off my desk as I found it on the floor. As my pc was dying I bought the disk to download all my "stuff". The pc died and now the portable disk has died and left me with nada. Bee
A pity you were not backing up to the Cloud or Google Drive but the data on you external and other drive can be recovered I do it
By Info
#1101493
Thanks Paul and freddo. Yes the Cloud sounds good but I think you have to subscribe for that and my "stuff" is not all that valuable to have a yearly subscription. It's just a nuisance when everything you collect disappears. Freddo I am waiting for someone to look at the drive for me and see what if anything is recoverable. It is just a nuisance that these external drives are so delicate. I will wrap the next one in a rubber case. I also lost a usb in the same week where the stuff on it was more valuable to me. Somebody hit off it,or hit something off it, while it was in the PC and completely buckled it. The joys of technology and thinking you have every angle covered.

Bee
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